Comments on: What Graphic Design Schools Are Lacking http://www.perezfox.com/2010/01/27/what-graphic-design-schools-are-lacking/ Design and Branding from Prescott Perez-Fox Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:37:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Vicky @ Yellow Car Design http://www.perezfox.com/2010/01/27/what-graphic-design-schools-are-lacking/#comment-483 Vicky @ Yellow Car Design Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:24:35 +0000 http://www.perezfox.com/?p=1589#comment-483 I totally agree with that point too. Having myself studied Media Arts (that included geography, politics, current affairs, art history, history, semantics and communication courses) before studying Graphic Design, I find that most often what helps me come up with a concept or idea for a design project is the stuff that I learned in those "non-design-related" classes. I tended to be so annoyed in my design classes when the majority of students were in awe in front of a fellow student's work, just because it looked good and was trendy. The whole notion that for a design to be good it needed to be copied from the work we see every month in Creative Review was, unfortunately, what most people (students and tutors, sadly) in my class would see as a recipe for success. I am confident that if they had had a bit more "non-design-related" courses like I had they would be able to see that what makes a design excellent isn't only the way it looks. A design cannot be qualified as "excellent" if it, even if visually beautiful, doesn't convey and communicate the message that is intended. So yep Prescott, you're totally right :) I totally agree with that point too. Having myself studied Media Arts (that included geography, politics, current affairs, art history, history, semantics and communication courses) before studying Graphic Design, I find that most often what helps me come up with a concept or idea for a design project is the stuff that I learned in those “non-design-related” classes. I tended to be so annoyed in my design classes when the majority of students were in awe in front of a fellow student’s work, just because it looked good and was trendy. The whole notion that for a design to be good it needed to be copied from the work we see every month in Creative Review was, unfortunately, what most people (students and tutors, sadly) in my class would see as a recipe for success. I am confident that if they had had a bit more “non-design-related” courses like I had they would be able to see that what makes a design excellent isn’t only the way it looks. A design cannot be qualified as “excellent” if it, even if visually beautiful, doesn’t convey and communicate the message that is intended. So yep Prescott, you’re totally right :)

]]> By: Vicky @ Yellow Car Design http://www.perezfox.com/2010/01/27/what-graphic-design-schools-are-lacking/#comment-1015 Vicky @ Yellow Car Design Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:24:00 +0000 http://www.perezfox.com/?p=1589#comment-1015 I totally agree with that point too. Having myself studied Media Arts (that included geography, politics, current affairs, art history, history, semantics and communication courses) before studying Graphic Design, I find that most often what helps me come up with a concept or idea for a design project is the stuff that I learned in those "non-design-related" classes. I tended to be so annoyed in my design classes when the majority of students were in awe in front of a fellow student's work, just because it looked good and was trendy. The whole notion that for a design to be good it needed to be copied from the work we see every month in Creative Review was, unfortunately, what most people (students and tutors, sadly) in my class would see as a recipe for success. I am confident that if they had had a bit more "non-design-related" courses like I had they would be able to see that what makes a design excellent isn't only the way it looks. A design cannot be qualified as "excellent" if it, even if visually beautiful, doesn't convey and communicate the message that is intended. So yep Prescott, you're totally right :) I totally agree with that point too. Having myself studied Media Arts (that included geography, politics, current affairs, art history, history, semantics and communication courses) before studying Graphic Design, I find that most often what helps me come up with a concept or idea for a design project is the stuff that I learned in those “non-design-related” classes. I tended to be so annoyed in my design classes when the majority of students were in awe in front of a fellow student’s work, just because it looked good and was trendy. The whole notion that for a design to be good it needed to be copied from the work we see every month in Creative Review was, unfortunately, what most people (students and tutors, sadly) in my class would see as a recipe for success. I am confident that if they had had a bit more “non-design-related” courses like I had they would be able to see that what makes a design excellent isn’t only the way it looks. A design cannot be qualified as “excellent” if it, even if visually beautiful, doesn’t convey and communicate the message that is intended. So yep Prescott, you’re totally right :)

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]]> By: Prescott http://www.perezfox.com/2010/01/27/what-graphic-design-schools-are-lacking/#comment-481 Prescott Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:39:03 +0000 http://www.perezfox.com/?p=1589#comment-481 At my school, design students of all disciplines were made to take Physics for Design, but the effort was half-hearted. Students muddled through it and then forgot the logical undertones of that course. In other words, no one dropped because of it — no one said to themselves "Wow, design is very rigorous from an academic point of view. I better learn this stuff or die trying." My belief, as I think you see, is that design isn't respected as a "smart" profession, the same way that law, medicine, engineering, accounting, teaching, etc. are. A university degree should mean something, no matter if we're designers or architects or biological researchers. The only way to change this is to ensure that everyone who gets his hands on a design degree is a helluva thinker, as well as a designer. Hell, I'm just trying to make it through the day. I don't have all the answers. At my school, design students of all disciplines were made to take Physics for Design, but the effort was half-hearted. Students muddled through it and then forgot the logical undertones of that course. In other words, no one dropped because of it — no one said to themselves “Wow, design is very rigorous from an academic point of view. I better learn this stuff or die trying.”

My belief, as I think you see, is that design isn’t respected as a “smart” profession, the same way that law, medicine, engineering, accounting, teaching, etc. are. A university degree should mean something, no matter if we’re designers or architects or biological researchers. The only way to change this is to ensure that everyone who gets his hands on a design degree is a helluva thinker, as well as a designer.

Hell, I’m just trying to make it through the day. I don’t have all the answers.

]]> By: Prescott http://www.perezfox.com/2010/01/27/what-graphic-design-schools-are-lacking/#comment-1014 Prescott Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:39:00 +0000 http://www.perezfox.com/?p=1589#comment-1014 At my school, design students of all disciplines were made to take Physics for Design, but the effort was half-hearted. Students muddled through it and then forgot the logical undertones of that course. In other words, no one dropped because of it — no one said to themselves "Wow, design is very rigorous from an academic point of view. I better learn this stuff or die trying." My belief, as I think you see, is that design isn't respected as a "smart" profession, the same way that law, medicine, engineering, accounting, teaching, etc. are. A university degree should mean something, no matter if we're designers or architects or biological researchers. The only way to change this is to ensure that everyone who gets his hands on a design degree is a helluva thinker, as well as a designer. Hell, I'm just trying to make it through the day. I don't have all the answers. At my school, design students of all disciplines were made to take Physics for Design, but the effort was half-hearted. Students muddled through it and then forgot the logical undertones of that course. In other words, no one dropped because of it — no one said to themselves “Wow, design is very rigorous from an academic point of view. I better learn this stuff or die trying.”

My belief, as I think you see, is that design isn’t respected as a “smart” profession, the same way that law, medicine, engineering, accounting, teaching, etc. are. A university degree should mean something, no matter if we’re designers or architects or biological researchers. The only way to change this is to ensure that everyone who gets his hands on a design degree is a helluva thinker, as well as a designer.

Hell, I’m just trying to make it through the day. I don’t have all the answers.

]]> By: David Airey http://www.perezfox.com/2010/01/27/what-graphic-design-schools-are-lacking/#comment-480 David Airey Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:34:07 +0000 http://www.perezfox.com/?p=1589#comment-480 Yours was one of my favourite comments, too, Prescott. Thanks for contributing. Yours was one of my favourite comments, too, Prescott. Thanks for contributing.

]]> By: David Airey http://www.perezfox.com/2010/01/27/what-graphic-design-schools-are-lacking/#comment-1013 David Airey Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:34:00 +0000 http://www.perezfox.com/?p=1589#comment-1013 Yours was one of my favourite comments, too, Prescott. Thanks for contributing. Yours was one of my favourite comments, too, Prescott. Thanks for contributing.

]]> By: Mig Reyes http://www.perezfox.com/2010/01/27/what-graphic-design-schools-are-lacking/#comment-479 Mig Reyes Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:06:19 +0000 http://www.perezfox.com/?p=1589#comment-479 Great question, and many thoughts come to mind. Last year, I recently asked a wide range of industry professionals and fresh graduates on the subject. David's points ring true. I'm wrapping up an article about this for CMYK Magazine, with the original question posed here: http://migreyes.com/thoughts.php Great question, and many thoughts come to mind. Last year, I recently asked a wide range of industry professionals and fresh graduates on the subject. David’s points ring true.

I’m wrapping up an article about this for CMYK Magazine, with the original question posed here: http://migreyes.com/thoughts.php

]]> By: Mig Reyes http://www.perezfox.com/2010/01/27/what-graphic-design-schools-are-lacking/#comment-1012 Mig Reyes Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:06:00 +0000 http://www.perezfox.com/?p=1589#comment-1012 Great question, and many thoughts come to mind. Last year, I recently asked a wide range of industry professionals and fresh graduates on the subject. David's points ring true. I'm wrapping up an article about this for CMYK Magazine, with the original question posed here: http://migreyes.com/thoughts.php Great question, and many thoughts come to mind. Last year, I recently asked a wide range of industry professionals and fresh graduates on the subject. David’s points ring true.

I’m wrapping up an article about this for CMYK Magazine, with the original question posed here: http://migreyes.com/thoughts.php

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